Once again SHEAm has SHAMED himself and the gays by misquoting, misstating, and misunderstanding the politics of the GLBT world. Maybe he's tired of the Warren-flap, and maybe he's right that the issue shouldn't be surprising or isn't that important. But his assertion that McCain and Obama and in fact bot major parties are the same on gay rights is simply absurd.
I 100% agree that the two major parties on the national level are not in favor of gay marriage, but that is only one small piece of the pie. By and large (and yes there are exceptions on both sides of the aisle) Democrats want to pass the employment nondiscrimination act (Republicans have blocked and filibustered it since the early 1990s); Democrats (now) want to repeal the so-called "Defense of Marriage Act" which is patently unconstitutional (remember the full faith and credit clause?) while Republicans think it essential; many Republicans (including our current president) want to amend the U.S. Constitution to define marriage, Democrats don't; Democrats (now) want to allow gays to serve openly in the military, Republicans don't. The list goes on and on. There are severe differences between the two parties (at large and in Congress in particular).
Will Obama do all he has said on these issues? I don't know. I certainly hoped that he would deliver on some of the issues that are popular amongst large swaths of the public, especially protecting gays and lesbians in the workplace. My main point in this Warren-flap has been that Obama is signaling that at the very least he doesn't seem to be bothered even consulting with the leadership of the gay community (even the Human Rights Campaign. Coincidentally, I echo many of SHEAm's critiques)
Am I an Obama-booster? No. Did I vote for him over McCain? Absolutely. And maybe that's part of the problem. When it comes to social issues and any of the equality issues important to the gay community there is little choice but to support the Democratic nominee in nearly any national race.
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Saturday, December 20, 2008
Enough with Warren
This post is not going to be a Corrupt-esque shock that Obama chose the guy to give a speech. I'm honestly shocked that we are still talking about it ... it just proves how stupid and near-sighted most gays are. I predict that Corrupt with have a response to this ... something from the partisan left, but I look forward to it.
Obama doesn't support the gays anymore than John McCain would have. Obama, feels the same way - they are here, they are queer, and I don't care. Warren hates gays, blah blah blah ... yes we know that. Is he going to talk about homosexuality during inauguration; I doubt it. Does Obama like him for reasons non-withstanding of his position on homosexuality; probably. In all honesty, I am not in the least bit surprised - and therefore I don't care. Obama was never going to be the saviors that the gays expected him to be.
I'm going to say this (even though its going to drive Corrupt, and his other Obama-partisan politics-friends, off the charts), Obama supporters voted in favor of Prop8. The endless GOTV efforts throughout California helped Prop8 succeed, it wasn't the only reason - but it was one of many. I just had to say that.
Anyway - Warren. I think a great point was made in the VP-Debate between Conductor Biden and Games man Palin ... they both have the same position on gays. Both parties do, both campaigns did. They don't care what gays do, what happens to us, what doesn't happen to us. Biden and Obama just aren't concerned with it - its just that simple. It's clearly not a big issue for any major party. And here we are ... wasting our energy once again on something so inconsequential. Seeing the movie Milk, in which Harvey Milk organized universal support to defeat Prop6 - allowing the State of California the power to fire teachers for being gay. Why can't we do that today? What's wrong with the gay community?
Well for one ... The Human Rights Campaign is a money pit. As a supporter of gays, you are likely to get more results from putting your donation towards a drink than you would by giving it to HRC. They get nothing done. They just dilly-dally about, accomplishing nothing - and I'm sick of it. We need real leaders to motivate people ... not Joe Solmonese sending out daily emails about what matters and how they need more money to raise his salary a little higher.
Sorry about that whole long rant - point is ... Obama doesn't care about the gays now and didn't pretend to care about them when you voted for him in the primaries and general election. Get over it. Let's start tackling some bigger issues ...
Obama doesn't support the gays anymore than John McCain would have. Obama, feels the same way - they are here, they are queer, and I don't care. Warren hates gays, blah blah blah ... yes we know that. Is he going to talk about homosexuality during inauguration; I doubt it. Does Obama like him for reasons non-withstanding of his position on homosexuality; probably. In all honesty, I am not in the least bit surprised - and therefore I don't care. Obama was never going to be the saviors that the gays expected him to be.
I'm going to say this (even though its going to drive Corrupt, and his other Obama-partisan politics-friends, off the charts), Obama supporters voted in favor of Prop8. The endless GOTV efforts throughout California helped Prop8 succeed, it wasn't the only reason - but it was one of many. I just had to say that.
Anyway - Warren. I think a great point was made in the VP-Debate between Conductor Biden and Games man Palin ... they both have the same position on gays. Both parties do, both campaigns did. They don't care what gays do, what happens to us, what doesn't happen to us. Biden and Obama just aren't concerned with it - its just that simple. It's clearly not a big issue for any major party. And here we are ... wasting our energy once again on something so inconsequential. Seeing the movie Milk, in which Harvey Milk organized universal support to defeat Prop6 - allowing the State of California the power to fire teachers for being gay. Why can't we do that today? What's wrong with the gay community?
Well for one ... The Human Rights Campaign is a money pit. As a supporter of gays, you are likely to get more results from putting your donation towards a drink than you would by giving it to HRC. They get nothing done. They just dilly-dally about, accomplishing nothing - and I'm sick of it. We need real leaders to motivate people ... not Joe Solmonese sending out daily emails about what matters and how they need more money to raise his salary a little higher.
Sorry about that whole long rant - point is ... Obama doesn't care about the gays now and didn't pretend to care about them when you voted for him in the primaries and general election. Get over it. Let's start tackling some bigger issues ...
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